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The biochemical antiplatelet (anti-clotting) actions
of Plavix and aspirin are different, which is why they are prescribed together.
But if you are allergic to aspirin, it sounds reasonable to increase the
Plavix dose, although the "optimal" dose of Plavix is the subject
of much debate. For example, a study presented at this past summer's European
Congress of Cardiology reported that doubling the dose of Plavix (clopidogrel)
significantly reduced stent thrombosis and heart attacks in patients with
Acute Coronary Syndrome (ACS) but that there was no difference between
single and double dosing in patients who did not have that classification.
As to desensitization to aspirin, that can only be done in specialized
centers, and may or may not be successful.
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, January 31, 2010
i had 2 stents put in this past week....and
i am allergic to aspirin. I have been told by my cardiologist to take
150mg of Plavix a day to compensate
for the aspirin allergy. Will that much Plavix cause any side effects? Should
I go through the desensitization for my aspirin allergy?
PJ, New York, USA, January 30, 2010
Stan -- are you on an ACE inhibitor? They are
known to cause coughs in certain individuals.
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, January 30, 2010
I had a cobalt chromium stent implanted
in May of 2009. I had a 95% blockage in on of my arteries. I was put
on Plavix, 85mg of aspirin and simvastatin. I have had a nagging dry
cough since being put on the medications. Anyone else
had the same?
Stan H., California, USA, January 28, 2010
Linda, Ron and others -- regarding the cost of
Plavix ($4/day) -- check out our Forum Topic on "Financial
Assistance" where patients have written about various programs
they have found for help.
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, January 27, 2010
I have really found all the comments very
informative. I recently had a heart attack, on xmas as a matter of fact
and spent 2 1/2 weeks in the hospital.
I have still having a problem adjusting to this all. I am 54 yr old female.
I have been depressed. I too am on plavix (an having a hard time getting because
of funds) and aspirin 325. So the info has been very informative. I wish all
of us extended reasonable good health and the best to us all. One heart to
another. Love. (Oh an any help with info concerning getting meds reasonable,
please let
me know. I was taking 2 pills now I have 11)
Linda, Gautier, Mississippi, USA, January 26, 2010
My husband had a FPO closure and therefore
he had to take plavix for 1 month. Since he takes the plavix (he also
takes asaflow 160 now for 1 year)he feels miserable.The second day
he had the baddest migraine he's ever had. The first 2 days he had 4
aura's
a day with flashes in his eye and he had an enormous pressure in his
chest. He said his sight was very strange and this made him very scared.
Now 4 days later he is still dizzy (its like he's on a boat all the
time) has ear ringing (sleeps with ventilator to not hear the ringing)
feels
very tiered so can hardly work. We contacted the cardiologist and he
told us we may stop the plavix, just may take the asaflow 160 (no problems
with asaflow
160).
Sylvia, Belgium, January 20, 2010
PLAVIX COST SO MUCH. WHERE IS THE LOWEST
PRICE IN THE USA TO BUY THIS? NO INSURANCE
Ron, Texas, USA, January 18, 2010
I had taxus coated stent (LAD) in 7/18/05,
Took plavix for 9 mos. and stopped against doctors advice. Then took
325 aspirin once in awhile,sometimes took baby aspirin. No problems.
In 11/09
Took scheduled 2 yr. nuclear stress test. Doctor said test revealed minor
blockage in 2005 (LAD). Needed to be cleaned up .After cart. cath. done
doctor said it was not old stent but (RCA). So another stent placed on
11/20/09.
Back on plavix, very high BLOOD PRESSURE & SEVERE HEAD ACHES that doctor
says is not related to procedure. I have seen my primary doctor, ent,
,neurologist, & another
internist. All have prescribed meds that did not help. Was discharged
from hosp. on 11/20/ 09. Had to go to ER on 11/25 09 because of severe
headache & high
bp. seeing cardiologist in morning. These problems all started 4 days
after starting plavix again. I am 62 yrs. old & have been suffering these
side effects for 50 sleepless, painful nights. Ambien has been a must
or i would
be a zombie. Everyone needs to do more research on plavix! And how accurate
are nuclear stress tests????. Try MULTISLICE CT ANGIOGRAM INSTEAD. Its
not as
invasive. Good Luck & hang
in there. KEEP THE FAITH.
Landon, St. Louis, Missouri, USA, January 13, 2010
Keres -- check out our Forum Topic on Plavix
and Surgery. We assume that your 6 stents are drug-eluting types
(not bare metal). It would not be recommended to stop Plavix and aspirin
before the year is up, unless you have a life-threatening condition --
but have your cardiologist and surgeon talk to each other. Surgeons have
found ways of operating (minor surgery) without taking the patient off
of these meds.
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, January 12, 2010
aged 58,next
to effort testing, coronography realised end september 2009, 3 vessels obstructed
and hardened,6 stents implemented,of
which 5 active. Plavix
combined with Tahor and Kardegic (aspirin) for at least one year.At
the start,one month, double doses created strange reactions in legs and
hands
and breast-pain during efforts. After reduction to half doses, all side
effects are gone. Other effect: constipation while trialing diet to reduce
weight from 86kg, to now 81kg, target 75kg.New problem arising: a colonoscopy
has
identified some polyps (non-cancerous) to be surged.In search of alternative
medication in order to minimize risks for
surgery. Any information available?
Keres, Paris, France, January 12, 2010
Joe H -- whether or not omeprazole reduces the
effectiveness of Plavix has been the subject of much debate in the medical
community. The FDA issued a warning in November about this, but the story
is pretty complex. You can read about it in our blog posting, PPIs
and Plavix: Confusion Reigns Supreme.
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, January 11, 2010
I have just had (3) three coated
stints implanted on 1/08/2010 and when I checked out the following day I
was prescribed
with 75 MG Plavix and 325 aspirin.
I am also on 20 MG Omeprazole. Should I have any concerns with this combination
of medication. After reading the [below] above responses I have the above questions.
Joe H., South Carolina, USA, January 11, 2010
I had a MI in 2004 in my LAD. Had a drug eluting
stent put in. I have been on Plavix and baby aspirin for five years now.
Seems like I should be able to discontinue the Plavix! Isn't this a long
time to be on this med?
Karol, Michigan, USA, January 2, 2010
Fabi -- last summer the FDA
approved Prasugrel as an antiplatelet med (brand name "Effient"). The
drug is currently under review by Health Canada, but not yet approved
there.
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, January 2, 2010
My father was on Plavix for a week and had a rash
back in october. He was put on Ticlid and after one month he has now persistent
diarrhea (duration
of the diarrhea: 25 days now). Is there any other anticoagulant than Plavix
or Ticlid ? He is also on Lipitor, Lopressor, Asaphen and Hytrin. Is there
any interactions
between these drugs that could cause a persistent diarrhea ? Thanks for your
answers.
Fabi, Quebec, Canada, December 31, 2009
For those having difficulty affording Plavix
or other prescriptions, try googling and ordering through Canada pharmacies.
My local pharmacy charged me about $150 for a 30 day supply of Plavix.
I got a 90 day supply (90 tablets) of Plavix generic (clopidogrel) for
less than $40 including shipping with a 2 week delivery time. Just look
for reputable licensed pharmacies in Canada and compare prices between
them. Ask for their delivery time. I was initially concerned but the
drug is typically shipped directly from a worldwide pharmaceutical company
overseas
and not some hole in the wall. Also remember the licensed pharmacy in
Canada is vouching for the product and source. Usually they have an 800#
so you
can talk to them about any concerns. There are so many Canada pharmacies
advertising you can be very choosy and select the best one for you in
terms of price and
service.
Bay, California, USA, December 28, 2009
Lori -- sounds like your mother has a complex
situation with a number of clinical issues. We are very sorry to hear that
she had a second heart attack because "the stents were the wrong size".
One of our missions here at Angioplasty.Org is to help make the procedure
better -- and there are various tools that exist to help with sizing stents
correctly -- we hope these are adopted more widely (see our Intravascular
Imaging Center). As for your mother's reactions, you might want to
check out our Forum Topic on Allergic
Reactions After
Drug Eluting Stent (DES). Not saying this is the problem, but it's worth a read.
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, December 22, 2009
My mother had a heart attack in Feb. 2009, 2 stents
were implanted. One week later she had a second heart attack because the
stents were the wrong size.
2 more stents were implanted. She felt good except some back pain. In june
2009 she started having burning, itching, numbness from head to toe. She
had been
to the emergency room 9 times for these symptoms and has been to an internist,allergist,
cardiologist, neurologist, psychiatrist, and primary care doctor. Every doctor
says the same thing, that there is nothing wrong with her that they can find.
She was taking Plavix which her doctor took her off of twice with no relief
from the symptoms. She has had an MRI, several EKG's, ENG (nerve test,
upper and lower), stress
test, complete blood work, and heart cath procedure. Every test has come back
normal. She was told her vitamin B-12 was a little low, other than that nothing
is wrong. She is 61 years old, has diabetes, high cholesterol and high BP.
Her symptoms are getting worse by the day. Her teeth and gums are numb,
she feels
like electrical shocks are going through her body, her legs and arms are numb,
her private area is numb. Please help if you can. I will do anything for her.
Lori W., Grand Blanc, Michigan, USA, December 19, 2009
John from Australia -- this site doesn't dispense
"medical advice". However, anything people can do to reduce their
cholesterol, etc. is a good thing. As for "natural blood thinners", we
would not recommend replacing prescription meds like Plavix with them,
but as an adjunct for a healthy diet, again, why not, as long as there
are no negative effects. The guidelines in the U.S. for dual antiplatelet
therapy (aspirin plus Plavix) after drug-eluting stent implantation are
for 12 months or more. We always recommend discussing these issues with
your cardiologist.
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, December 18, 2009
I had a medicated stent inserted in a coronary
artery after a heart attack in June 2008. I was originally put on plavix,
aspirin, somac, lipitor, bicor.Initially it was ok but after 6 months
the side effects started to kick in. After trial and error I'm now on Plavix,
aspirin and somac. I also take 3000mg Flax seed oil as a cholesterol
control
plus it is good for the digestive tract. I've stopped butter, cream,
bacon etc. I also take Coenzyme Q10 (150g) which really increased my energy
levels
immediately. I'm considering dropping the plavix and aspirin and somac
as it's been 18 months now. I'm interested in what this site has to say
about
natural blood thinners as the author obviously is very sensitive in this
area. http://www.ctds.info/natthinners.html
John, Australia, December 17, 2009
Tel (hi!) and L.H. -- the optimal duration of
DAPT (dual antiplatelet therapy) after drug-eluting stenting is THE question
these days in the cardiology community. Interestingly, there are several
trials just beginning, two of which are exclusively testing whether the
Endeavor stent may not require a year of these meds. We'll be reporting
on these in the next couple of months.
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, December 14, 2009
to LH Like you I had an Endeavour stent, mine
done in Jan2007, Was on Plavix until earlier this year, when I weaned myself
off it by withdrawing over
2 months. Gradually reducing dosage until pointless. Have not had one now for
3 months. Don't seem to come out in bruises like I used to when on it, but
I still take Warfarin, as I have Atrial Fibrillation. Still take 75mg Aspirin.
Tel, United Kingdom, December 12, 2009
Greetings all. Just checking in. In Sept/04 had
mild MI at the ripe old age of 42. I worked out every day in the gym
and was taking all the proper vitamins and watched my diet. My cholesterol
#'s weren't bad either. Since then (2004) I have been taking Plavix 75,
Aspirin. 81, Toprol 25, Procardia 30, Cozaar 100 and Crestor 10. Sometimes
I feel like I'm personally supporting the pharmaceutical industry, but
I'm
thankful to be alive. This Sept. it was FIVE years! Thank you Burt for
all you do. Enjoy life folks while you have it, it makes all the hard
work that all the people involved in treating CAD worth while!
Paul, New Hampshire, USA, December 5, 2009
One stent in 2007 due to 99% blockage of left
cor. artery. Placed on plavix
75 & asa 325 as well as bp meds.. I'm 65 now. always was hot natured. For past
year and ,esp. since start of winter (ga.)USA I feel like i'm freezing in my
face and nose.it happens inside even with my thermostat on like 74 today. It
even hurts sometimes. For example this morning I was painting (artist), just
moving around (u would think opposite) i started getting colder in my face and
nose. After about 30 min.. I got so uncomfortable from coldness I had to stop.
I sat down on my sofa, wrapped up and put a ski mask type thing over my head
, nose, etc. I turned my therm. up, took my temp. 97.3 orally. (i'm a retired
nurse) ha ha/!! It has been 30 min. my face is still cold ,esp. my nose, but
more bearable. I going to my cardiologist ASAP....Have you heard anyone being
this extremely cold? I stopped the asa about a yr. ago due to acute stomach pain.
I've done good since my stent (unless something is hiding). I would love to stop
the plavix. I hate this coldness. Summer when shopping in just cool store with
ac the same thing happens. Any info will be greatly appreciated.
J.H., Georgia, USA, December 5, 2009
Thank you for your prompt reply. It's very upsetting
to be prescribed medication which has unpredictable results when trying
to get off. Being a very healthy person prior to my tear (pulling together
a trampoline the LAD dissected, not a bad diet) I'm now extremely anxious
due to this unpredictability. Now Drs want me to take add'l meds to relieve
these symptoms. Hopefully, a year from now I'm still around and nothing
went wrong with ending the Plavix!
L. H., Long Island, New York, USA, December 3, 2009
L. H. -- see the post
below about the Medtronic
Endeavor stent and duration of Plavix/aspirin. As for going off Plavix,
there have been some observational studies that there is an increased incidence
of problems in the period right after stopping, but these have not been
tested in a clinical trial. Some
doctors advise gradually lowering the dose or frequency for a couple weeks,
just to play it safe -- again
not
proven.
This is a
very
complex issue and there are many many factors involved in dosing, duration
and cessation of Plavix.
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, December 3, 2009
In April 2009 my dad had an endoscopy. results=
chronic gastritis and H. pylori bacteria. He has had H. pylori bacteria
once before. For some reason his family doctor did not treat the chronic
gastritis.
However the H. pylori was treated with the 2 week antibiotic and the PPI.4
months ago my dad went into emerg for unstable angina. they did an angiogram
and put in 4 stents. Because of my father's slightly anemic condition the
interventional cardiologist gave him the regular stents and 2 months of
plavix.HIs NEW family doctor put him on pantaloc, a PPI, because of his
slight anemic
condition and due to the report chronic gastritis from that endoscopy.
I am very concerned. she said the only PPI that won't affect Plavix is
Pantaloc. My father could only be on Plavix for 2 mths, according to the
interv. cardiologist because he is slightly anemic.My concern is that the
family physician should not have put him on Pantaloc for those two months
he was on plavix. i am concerned that the plavix would not have had full
effect. I am concerned that the chronic gastritis was from H. pylori and
if that was treated in April..wouldn't it be gone? Did plavix have full
effect?
Julia, Oakville, Ontario, Canada, December 2, 2009
At 49 years old, had 2 bare metal stents in LAD 5/07, due to a tear (not
heart attack). Due to scar tissue had DES stent/Endeavor (balloon) implanted
12/15/08. Put on Plavix/aspirin. Advised Plavix for one year. As the anniversary
date is near, how do I get off the Plavix? Based upon what I've read I'm afraid
to stop cold turkey. What methods are suggested? Will increase from 81 to 325
aspirin
when done.
L. H., Long Island, New York, USA, December 1, 2009
Joz -- could be any number of things. Did he start
taking an ACE inhibitor after stenting. This class of blood pressure medications
can sometimes cause coughing as a side effect -- there are alternative
BP meds. Another possibility is that he has developed gastroesophageal
reflux disease (GERD) which can be treated with other meds, such as Proton
Pump Inhibitors. Discuss
this
issue
with your cardiologist.
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, December 1, 2009
My husband who is 48 years old has a stent and
is taking a lot of tablets. This happened in July 2009. After a month
of taking this medication he has developed a cough which is most irritable
because it happens mostly when he lies down. Can you tell me what might
be causing this please? Thanks
Joz, Malta, November 29, 2009
Leona and John -- how long to
take Plavix is the big question in this field. Current recommendations
for drug-eluting stents are for at least a year. It was originally 6 months
but after the late stent thrombosis scare a few years ago, practice was
changed. The truth, however, is that no one knows exactly. There are currently
several clinical trials that may answer these questions (it's the subject
of two upcoming interviews on Angioplasty.Org with Dr. Fausto Feres of
Brazil and Dr. Eric Topol at Scripps in California). Some data show that
different patients may do best with different durations. Also all stents
are not the same. The Medtronic Endeavor stent seems to show complete healing
at 6 months or less, but this is the subject of the above-mentioned trials.
Bare metal stents heal sooner and so recommendations for them are 4-6 weeks
of Plavix. Certain clinical situations also may suggest longer use -- bifurcation
lesions (the two diagonal branchs) being one of them. Our suggestion is
to discuss this issue with your interventional cardiologist specifically
(not just the family physician) -- the interventionalist is best
suited to judge the various factors in each individual patient's situation.
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, November 29, 2009
I had two Xience stents inserted into the LAD
in Feb. 2009. My physician told me that I can be taken off Plavix after
12 months and take a 325 mg enteric
coated aspirin. I feel a little jittery about this although I trust my physician.
The reason for the stent placement was a break off of plaque which closed the
LAD in two areas 95% and 70% and the stents are almost piggy-back. I also had
two diagonal arteries angioplastied at the same time.If anyone has additional
information for me please e-mail me. I have talked this over with my physician.
As an aside I had two surgeries while on Plavix and had very little problems
with each surgery, so surgery can be done if really necessary. I am a 70 yr.
old caucasian female.
Thank you.
Leona H., Missouri, USA, November 20, 2009
I have been taking plavix for over one year.
Can plavix cause nose ulcerations
and ringing in the ears?
A. B., New York, USA, November 19, 2009
2008 I had minor chest pain followed by stress
tests, doc decided I needed 4 stents. Had that done at age 69, now 70,
still taking Plavix (75) and aspirin
(325) daily. Health fine, weight 155, but here's the problem. On a long trip,
have 12 pills left and 24 days left till I get back where my pills are waiting
for me. Can I take half dosage for 24 days? Just cut pills in half? (After
all, I have been taking for more than a year already anyhow). Thanks.
John Hulpke, retired professor, California and Hong Kong now in Ireland, November
14, 2009
Margaret G. -- stents themselves don't have Plavix
in or on them -- Plavix is a blood thinner which should be be taken by
all stent patients after implantation to keep blood from forming a clot
inside
the stent. If your husband is allergic to Plavix, there are alternatives,
such a Ticlid and now prasugrel, which was just approved by the FDA.
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, November 14, 2009
My husband's Dr recommended that my husband have
stents because of lack of blood flow to his lower leg. I told him he
could not take plavix because he is allergic. He told there would be no
plavix
used. He lied and gave him a plavix stent and told me to have him take
plavix which I refused. My husband sets around like a zombie and is very
weak, has a lung infection that we can't get rid of because of the plavix
in his system. I think I have a law suit on my hands with all the stress
of dealing with my husband's affliction. I now have to wait on him hand
and foot. I hate Dr.s
Margaret G., Florida, USA, November 13, 2009
Stout in India -- Aspirin is used to treat coronary
artery disease because it helps keep the platelets in the blood from clotting,
very important
especially after stenting. Both Plavix and aspirin do this. A side effect,
as you can imagine, is a higher risk of bleeding. So these meds must be
monitored and balanced by a medical doctor (along with any other meds you
may be taking). One thing, from your original post, you say you had a stroke
and had two stents implanted. Were these coronary stents? Stroke is sometimes
described as "a heart attack of the brain", but the treatment
for stroke does not involve stenting the coronaries, rather opening up
the
carotid artery in the neck, either through surgery or stenting.
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, August 26, 2009
Reference to my post
dated Aug.25,'09, I found
a relation between colon cancer and Aspirin dose. from internet, some
say Aspirin is good for heart (prevents strokes) but not for digestive
system
causing gastric troubles and colon cancer. The colon cancer has symptoms
on abnormal bowel movement and gas generation. Do you feel the medicines
prescribed in heart disease have such side effects? Kindly analyze, as
I am an engineer and not physician.
Stout, Kolkata, India, August 26, 2009
Jim -- that's an excellent question and a situation
we've not read a study on. Plavix does have beneficial properties other
than preventing stent thrombosis. What does your cardiologist say?
And
Stout in India -- not sure what your other meds are (they may be causing
the constipation. We again recommend all patients to discuss these issues
with their doctor. And make sure to report any over-the-counter or herbal
remedies you are using. Somethings their effects are as strong as prescription
meds. Any readers have some insight regarding Stout's complaint?
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, August 25, 2009
In April, I had two drug eluting stents put in
the diagonal artery, but in August was re-cathed and they found that
the two stents were totally occluded. However two collateral arteries have
been created, and are providing some flow to this area of the heart.
My
question is since the stents are totally occluded, do I still need to
take Plavix?
Jim, Massachusetts, USA, August 25, 2009
I am 56 years old, had a stroke due to two 99%
blockages and was treated by two non-medicated stents in March 2008.
I am now otherwise
well and use regular
medicines such as 1 tablet Noklot 150 plus(150mg Aspirin + 75mg Clopidogrel),1
tablet for cholesterol and 1 tablet for BP control. These medicines are used
at a stretch under physician's advice and periodic checkups. I never had any
constipation before but now I have regular constipation problem with gastric
trouble after I started these medicines. Let me advice how to get rid of this
side effects.
Stout, Kolkata, India, August 25, 2009
Paula -- read our
article on PPI meds (Prevacid
is one) and Plavix. On a completely different notes, is your mom taking
any other OTC meds. One of the main complications of Plavix and aspirin
is
bleeding.
Has your cardiologist discussed this? The very low blood pressure and passing
out are not normal side-effects. What is her blood count?
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, August 25, 2009
I need help and not sure where to turn. Mom had
heart attack 1 week prior. She had a stint [stent, ed.], was put on Plavix
(75mg) and Aspirin (325mg) and then Pravastatin at night. She also takes
Neurontin and Lorazepam due to previous nerve damage and several vitamins.
She is passing out after taking the Plavix and Aspirin (BP 80/50) and
the doctor said to drink more water. I think she's on too much aspirin.
Her
stomach also acts up so sometimes so she takes Previcid in the morning
before anything else. A strange side effect is her ear and nose close
up at odd times and now there is ringing in the ear after her morning pills.
The doctor just said post nasal drip gets worse with the elderly. I think
she's taking too much medication and she may end up with a GI bleed or
fall from a blackout. Can
anyone give some advice?
Paula Gabbert, Skokie, Illinois, USA, August 23, 2009
Val -- Plavix is indicated for several clinical
conditions -- in fact in a very technical sense, its use after stenting
was NOT an original indication approved by the FDA drug panel. The DAPT
and other studies are being done on patients who have received DES, so
that
would
tend towards older patients. Sounds like your son's case is pretty specific
and not the norm -- so study results may or may not be that applicable
to his situation. We would ask these questions of your cardiologist.
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, August 19, 2009
Thank you for the information about Plavix that
my now 19 year old son went on when his 2 drug eluding [eluting, ed.] stents
were put in 3 (not 4 as I mistakenly said) years ago. As a healthy 19 year
old
who
did not and does not have heart disease (his docs can't explain why his
arteries collapsed during catheter ablation for SVT)and is not at risk
for another heart attack for 30 or 40 years, the risk of another event
is nil, right? As for the studies on long term use of Plavix, are they
being done across all age groups, or just on older people that already
had "clogged arteries"? What are some of the other concerns that his cardiologist
may have for keeping him on plavix for life?
Val H., Minnesota, USA, August 18, 2009
Val -- there are several studies being done right
now, trying to determine the optimal duration of dual antiplatelet therapy (DAPT,
Plavix and aspirin) after drug-eluting stent implantation. Recommended
by most is one year -- with many docs saying "for life", as has
your son's. Most cardiologists would say there's no problem with Plavix
for life, unless
there are bleeding complications, which your son is having. But this is
a very tricky and very difficult situation, one that perplexes the top
people in the field. No one wants to say, okay go off it -- only to have
an event occur. Yes, the stents should
be covered by now -- of course there may be other reasons for your cardio's
recommendation.
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, August 17, 2009
My then 16 year old son had 2 drug-eluting stents
put in his left main when his arteries collapsed for no apparent reason
during a catheter ablation for SVT in 2005. He's been on Plavix and 81mg
aspirin for 4 years. Aren't the stents grown over by now and he can come
off the Plavix? Besides the high cost of the drug, we've had numerous
trips to the ER and ENT to find a solution to his reoccurring nosebleeds.
Why
does his dr insist he stay on Plavix for life?
Val H., Minnesota, USA, August 17, 2009
To: Nancy, Poughkeepsie,
New York,On Plavix over 4 months; no vision issues.
Discovered yesterday that I'd neglected to take Plavix for almost one week (don't
ask; long story), Cardio Dr said to take 4 (300MG) to ramp back up immediately.
Shortly after -- I noticed a couple pronounced eye 'floaters' in one eye (i.e.,
spots caused by disturbance to fluid in the eye). Also note occasional light
flashes as I orbit my eyes around (almost like a detached retina). It's calmed
a bit today, but 'floaters' are still there. Checked BP and it was/has been normal
throughout. Not sure if there's a connection -- but seemed to occur right after
heavy Plavix dosing.
R. Allen, Warren, New Jersey, USA, August 16, 2009
I have been on Plavix for 14 months due to a
TIA. For much of that time I have had severe muscle pain/cramps in my
back at night, which goes with movement upon waking. In the last 2 months
I
have developed shoulder joint pains as well for seemingly no reason,
and getting worse. My shoulders feel like some posts sound. I have also
had
very severe foot pain / tenderness upon hitting the floor (gently) in
the morning, and which gets better over time with movement. As a nutritionist,
I have tried 3 - 4 magnesium citrate lately to relax the muscles and
it
has helped my back and my sleeping is somewhat better and less restless.
I know that many drugs create nutritional deficiencies that if addressed
would reduce or eliminate their side effects. Does Plavix create Magnesium
or any other
nutrient deficiency?
Rien, Abbotsford, BC, Canada, August 15, 2009
I received a second coronary stent October 22,
2008 and was put on Plavix and 160 milligrams of aspirin. I discontinued
the aspirin in January 2009 due
to severe heartburn and chest pressure, which subsided right away once I stopped
taking the aspirin. I was also experiencing profuse rectal bleeding after bowel
movement which required trips to the ER to stop it, so I stopped taking Plavix
in March 2009 and have had no adverse effect from discontinuing the drug 7
months sooner than doctor recommended and have had no more recurrences
of rectal bleeding.
Jan, North Carolina, USA, August 13, 2009
I have been on Plavix and aspirin since Nov.
2006. My cardiologist wants me to stay on Plavix, my primary physician
tells me to stop and just continue
the 81 mg. aspirin. What shall I do??
Irv M., New York, USA, August 13, 2009
in france they rec. taking off plavix after 20
months after taxus stents but increase cardio aspirin to 160 from 100 mg
to compensate from dual to single
therapy. BTW they use powdered soluble sachets as say better than tablet aspirin
any agree/disagree and any risk in rebound? tks
Relax, Nice, France, August 10, 2009
Elizabeth
R. in Georgetown, Ky. I had an Angioplasty
and a drug eluding [eluting] stent put in 8 days ago. My Cardiologist had
me start taking 75mg Plavix in addition to the 325mg Aspirin I was already
taking
daily. He warned me to never stop taking either drug, or there would be
a very high possibility of having a heart attack. I grew up in Georgetown.
My Dad pastored Georgetown Baptist Church for over 25 years. My three older
siblings graduated from Georgetown College. I hope this helps you. I'll
be praying for you and husband. Please email me if I can be of further
assistance.
Buddy M., Texas, USA, August 7, 2009
I read the abstract in Circulation (Oct 2008; 118: S_815) and am alarmed
by your data. You claim that stent patients with no preceding CV events taking
PPIs with clopidogrel showed a 32.5% incidence of a major CV event within one
year vs. 21.2% of patients not taking PPIs (adjusted OR 1.79, CI 1.62–1.97).
Is that really so - 21% incidence of major CV event after stenting in the first
year even without PPI's? That sounds worse than no intervention at all!
TVR, Farmington, Connecticut, USA, August 4, 2009
Thanks for the note. I am writing a paper for
the Annals of Internal Medicine.
Is there a citable version of your data?
TVR, Farmington, Connecticut, USA, August 4, 2009
Elizabeth R. -- if the stent was a drug-eluting
stent, current guidelines recommend at least one year of dual antiplatelet
therapy of Plavix (clopidogrel) and aspirin. This is to prevent blood clotting
inside the stent, also called "stent thrombosis". This is a very
serious condition and could result in a heart attack. Not sure which other
meds
you refer to, but check out our Forum Topic on Financial
Assistance for
some help (we hope).
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, August 3, 2009
My husband had a stent put in 4 months ago due
to a blocked artery. His medical insurance was cancelled 11 days prior
to the heart attack. The company just could not afford their portion
any longer (economy). Anyhow, these MEDS ARE EXPENSIVE, does anyone have
any
experiences with coming off of the meds? Should he stay on them regardless.
If he comes off, what symptoms should we be
alarmed with?
Elizabeth R., Georgetown, Kentucky, USA, August 3, 2009
TVR -- the most recent data for the Medco Study
was presented at the Annual SCAI Meeting, as per our article "Heartburn
Drugs Increase Cardiac Events for Stent Patients by 50%" and the
related stories in the article's sidebar. The earlier data from this study
was published in
Circulation last fall. The SCAI presentation has not yet been published
in a peer-reviewed journal, but it probably will be soon.
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, August 3, 2009
Someone posted a note on the effect of PPIs on
plavix bioconversion (the Medco study). Has this been published in a peer-reviewed
journal? I tried to look it up on PubMed but could not find it. Thanks!
TVR, Farmington, Connecticut, USA, August 3, 2009
I have been taking Plavix for one month. My eyes
and vision are not the same as before. Has anyone had an problems like
this?
Nancy, Poughkeepsie, New York, USA, August 2, 2009
David -- check out our topic, "Financial
Assistance for Plavix and Other
Prescription Drugs". Several posts have links to help people who cannot
afford medications. Also, contact your state or county -- they may have a prescription
assistance plan. Hope
this
helps.
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, July 29, 2009
I need to find where I can get free plavix 75mg.
tablets. I had a stent put in on April 1, 2005. Recently I was laid off
and had other medical problems such as high blood pressure, high cholesterol
and sickle cell anemia. Also my needs include toprol 100mg and norvasc
10 mg tablets. Any help that I can get
would be greatly appreciated.
David C., Monroe, North Carolina, USA, July 29, 2009
coating splitting on Clopidogrel tablets ,but
presumed ok until one split completely into two halves .As had been feeling
rough during the two weeks carried
on taking them, saw chemist who checked tablets and replaced. I've been taking
new ok tablets for four days, but I'm so tired and my mouth and throat are
sore with a few ulcers, I also have a dull persistent pain to the right
of my breast
bone. Could this be connected? The chemist said the coating was giving way
too soon but advised I didn't need to see the doc.
Wendy H., Durham UK, July 28, 2009
I had a stent put in about 4 weeks ago. #weeks
after the stent I started with Joint pain and also numbness in my finger.
I wanted this stent to have that quality of life with my wife Paula again.
This is not what I signed up for. I can not sleep right at night the pain
is so high. I need something to control it. You are not crazy P
Clancy from NY. This drug can change your life or turn it the other
way. I went back to see the Doc. he did take a lot of blood test.
I will let you know....
F J K, Florida, USA, July 28, 2009
James J. -- Read our article, "Heartburn
Drugs Increase Cardiac Events for Stent Patients by 50%" and
the related stories in the right-hand sidebar -- and you'll see that
you're not the only one confused about this issue. There have been
conflicting results but, as your inhibition test showed, there is an
interaction
with PPIs that reduces the antiplatelet effect of clopidogrel (Plavix).
You're also correct that a German study showed no inhibition
with pantoprazole (Protonix) but the Medco study in our above article
showed that Protonix in fact had the most inhibition! Your cardiologist's
observation
is correct that this seems to vary from person to person.
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, July 27, 2009
I am taking 40mg of Protonix 2 times per day
and 75mg of Plavix 1 time per day. Approximately two months ago an inhibition
blood test was performed in order to see if the Protonix was ruining the
effect of the Plavix. The result was 37% inhibition. On the results, it
states "Therapeutic levels of Plavix are associated with higher % inhibition
demonstrating the expected antiplatelet effect of Plavix." The reference
ranges are unclear on the results. My question is: Am I receiving a therapeutic
level of Plavix when taking the Protonix? My concerns: I have read several
articles claiming proton pump inhibitors, Protonix being one, can ruin
the effect of Plavix. However, I did read one article that said Protonix
was an exception to affecting Plavix. Then I overheard a cardiologist
state it was a case by case matter, and only blood testing could determine
if
a proton pump inhibitor was reducing the effect of Plavix below a therapeutic
level in a person's
body.
James J., California, USA, July 27, 2009
Hello everyone, I am one of those poor souls who acquired one of the so
called " rare side effects " called TTP, I had stents placed in my legs due to
poor circulation, my doctor prescribed Plavix, upon the first week of taking
this medicine my body started to react , numbness in my fingers, dizziness, stomach
pain, headache, joint pain uncontrollable hand and finger jerking, confusion
and my speech was effect on the 13th day of taking this medication my head felt
like it was twisting off my neck, I called an ambulance,upon arrival to the hospital
I began to convulse and slipped into a coma " I WAS DYING " My platelet levels
had dropped and I began to build antibodies in my blood.The doctors immediately
diagnosed me with TTP, they began a plasma exchange on me, I woke up three days
later in ICU and placed on steroids, this medicine almost killed me, be very
careful when taking this or any medicine....god bless.
Larry, Jersey City, New Jersey, USA, July 26, 2009
P. Clancy, New York,
USA.......I have been on
Plavix for 3 months an have extreme pain in my shoulders, wrist and knees
it moves around. Plus numbness in my hands am trying to find others that
have this so I can show the doctor
I am not alone.
CR, Lawrenceburg, Indiana, USA, July 25, 2009
Extreme traveling joint pain from using Plavix.
Has anyone else had this? Have only been on it 3 months first few weeks
were fine. Now it's hard to walk
or move my arms will see doctor in 3 weeks.
Connie, Ohio, USA, July 25, 2009
to nurse "E" from Mobile -- thank you
for your post. Your recommendations are right on and very important for
all readers!
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, July 25, 2009
I have been a Cath Lab nurse for the past 25
years and have seen it all. The most important thing I learned was the
major importance of Plavix and ASA therapy post stenting. Patients returning
to the Cath Lab with recurring chest pain after stent placement about
85-95% had discontinued their plavix. So many returned that I made Plavix
importance
foremost in my pre and post procedure teaching. If money was the issue
I made sure that the Physician ordered a social service consult in order
to get Plavix assistance for them. The drug company will usually assist
patient's with either free or reduced cost Plavix. In 2006 I had a heart
attack, received a drug eluting stent and left on Plavix and ASA 325mg
regime. I am such a Plavix advocate when my Cardiologist told me I could
come off Plavix and reduce my ASA to 81mg I told him if it was alright
with him I would leave both as they were. He agreed with me but said
it would not be a problem unless I had problems. So, far with the annoyance
of bruising I have been great. I would recommend to everyone to stay
on
your Cardiologist's recommendations even to the point that no one but
your Cardiologist take you off of the meds. If you do need surgery or any
other
procedure have your doctor call your Cardiologist for permission. Remember,
Social Service Consult if needed and only your Cardiologist should stop
your Plavix or ASA. Questions or allergy call Cardiologist. Your doctor
works for you.
E, Mobile, Alabama, USA, July 25, 2009
forum,
no we haven't -- They are now giving us the
run around on finding allergist (non seem to know how to check him). I
have given the dr print outs of the melisa.org and they are trying to get
him into a cardio at a mayo clinic. I don't understand why this is taking
so long draw blood send it to melisa.
Amanda, Patterson, Georgia, USA, July 22, 2009
Standard recommendations for antiplatelet meds
after placement of a drug-eluting stent (the Taxus is one) is at least
one year of Plavix -- and aspirin for life. However, many cardiologists
feel Plavix can be helpful if given longer, if there are no
bleeding complications or other adverse reactions. (Plavix helps keep
blood from clotting inside the stent, something which can cause a heart
attack.)
Modern medications have been shown to be very helpful in the treatment
of coronary artery disease. Possibly the meds can be adjusted. But the
decision to stop or alter any medication should definitely be done in
consultation with your
cardiologist.
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, July 21, 2009
My 82 yr old wife had two Taxus stents placed in June, 2008 because of
sudden 100% blockage of her LAD. She is currently on 75mg Plavix, 40 mg Diovan,
40mg Simvastatin and 50 mg Carvedilol. She hates pills (she wasn't taking any
prior to the heart attack) and would like to stop taking them if possible. Are
there any guidelines or ongoing studies about how long you need to take Plavix
or any of her drugs?
Dennis Meronek, retired, California, USA, July 21, 2009
I HAVE BEEN ON PLAVIX FOR A YEAR AND A HALF TERRIBLE
ACHE IN SHOULDERS AND NECK AND BACK PAIN BUT WHEN I ASKED THEY SAID I
DON'T THINK IT'S FROM THAT. IT MAKES ME SICK WHEN I GET THIS. ANYONE OUT
THERE
IN THE SAME BOAT?
P. Clancy, New York, USA, July 16, 2009
Amanda -- have you determined whether or not your
father is allergic to nickel or stainless steel (which contains nickel).
ALL Stents, DES or bare metal, contain nickel and the official FDA-mandated
Directions For Use (DFU) included with each stent specifically warns
that stents should not be implanted in persons with a known hypersensitivity
to any of the components.
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, July 14, 2009
Hello all I do feel for each of you I am a 33
yr old not a problem it is my father-in-law he has had problems since Oct
2006 he had DES placed put
on plavix and aspirin by Dec 2006 they were doing bypass to remove the stent
he was allergic. We found the problem not the DR. No Dr had ever heard of someone
being allergic to a stent. He then developed some more problems blood pressure
would suddenly drop causing him to pass out or faint some times 3 times a day.
Dr. don't know again what it could be. He tried to wean off plavix chest hurt
so bad he started them again. Dr's put a pacemaker in. no help he still pass
out 3 times or more a day some days no probs. He just had cath done Dr told us
he thought it was the med on stent he was allergic to and told us with no options
he was putting in a bare metal stent. pro was done on fri sent home on sat and
guess what he is in allergic reaction again looking at second bypass to cut stent
out. still dr.'s haven't heard of this the same dr.'s I have been researching
and some of u my want to check this site out melisa.org most of ur problems could
be the metal in the stents themselves and not med. GOOD LUCK!
Amanda, Georgia, USA, July 13, 2009
Hi, folks, having had a heart attack in 1999..and
had an angioplasty.....i take the following medication, ASPRIN.75MG....ATENOLOL.100MG...NICORANDL.30MG.[twice
a day]RAMIPIL.10mg...MONOMAX XL 120mg...."CLOPIDOGREL.75mg.".....BEZAFIBRATE.400mg...SIMVASTATIN.40mg...LANSOPRAZOLE.15mg....I
GET MOST OF THE SIDE EFFECTS...COLD,RASH,SWELLINGS...AND NOW I HAVE TROUBLE
WITH MY KNEES [joints]....i have been on PLAVIX for about 6 years ????
my consultant now wants me to stop taking it???....WOULD APPRECIATE ANY
ADVICE....[TIP] i take a finely chopped garlic clove....most days....plus
a comfey leave in salad...it
really helps,the building blocks of life....
Frank M. Pountney, Wallasey, United Kingdom, July 13, 2009
Thank you for your responses, it's good to know
there are people out there who understand what you're going through.
Incredulous as it is, we haven't actually
got to speak to my Dad's cardiologist, so I have no idea what kind/brand of
stents they used on him. I don't even think that the hospital he is being
treated at
now have gotten to speak to his cardiologist - the stent procedure was performed
at a different hospital. However I am going to the hospital within the next
hour to insist that an aspirin alternative is found, as we know that plavix
has no
adverse side effects for him.
Mike - we're lucky that in the UK plavix is
free
/ only costs approx £6 for a prescription. It's horrendous that your doctor doesn't
care about the side effects. We put him on a high fibre intake for a few days
coupled with eating fruit, drinking fruit juice and lots of water. It's good
that you've been able to remedy that for yourself without needing drugs.
Miss H, Northern Ireland, United Kingdom, July 9, 2009
Miss H - Age 62, similar problems after DES 1
year ago. Found that enteric coated aspirin (doesn't dissolve until after
the stomach) eliminated the stomach pain and bleeding. Massive doses
of fiber (:-) eliminates the constipation - Fiber One for breakfast and
shredded
wheat for supper. No need for other drugs. If I could afford the Plavix,
I would be doing well. My doctor doesn't seem to
care about side effects.
Mike, Missouri, USA, July 9, 2009
Miss H -- what type of stents did your father
get? Drug-eluting or bare metal and what brand, if you know. Bleeding
complications are one of the biggest concerns with dual antiplatelet therapy
(Plavix
plus aspirin) -- perhaps your father's cardiologist might have some input
here.
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, July 9, 2009
Hi all, so glad I found this site. My Dad is 60 and has been on plavix
for 7 years (never caused him a problem)because he was diagnosed back then with
angina. Last summer follow up tests were requested (slight delay there) and 7
weeks ago he had an angiogram and told he needed 3 stents in his artery. He gave
up smoking immediately and has been on nicotine patches since. He ended up requiring
4 stents (was not told why the extra 1 was needed) and was also prescribed aspirin,
lipitor and a beta blocker. At the time he told his consultant he'd had a stomach
ulcer when he was younger and expressed his concern about taking aspirin. This
concern wasn't listened to, and things have been going downhill since. For the
last month he has had problems with bowel movements, culminating in severe constipation
and stomach pain for the past few weeks. After several trips to the GP it was
discovered that he had been on aspirin all that time without taking a stomach-protecting
tablet. For the past 2 weeks he has also been passing blood when he tries to
go to the toilet. Has been given movicol laxatives, take 13 sachets in total,
has also been given 3 enemas - still NO real relief. After 3 trips to A&E has
finally been admitted to hospital, still nothing is being done and am now very
concerned re post by Mary, Virginia, USA, April 6, 2009 saying that her friend
was in icu with damage caused by a gi bleed from taking both tablets together.
Do I take this info with my to the hospital in the morning?
Miss H, Northern Ireland, United Kingdom, July 9, 2009
With so many people taking Plavix how come the
price stays so high we on Social Security can't afford it. I finally resorted
to a Canadian Pharmacy where I got twice the amount of pills at half the
price. I would rather deal with my local pharmacy but each time I go in
they have raised the price again, four times in one year. Too bad they
don't warn us before we ever start on Plavix.
Louisie Brett, Tillamook, Oregon, USA, July 6, 2009
Elizabeth in Providence -- there aren't "terrible
side effects" with Plavix and aspirin. Certainly some people experiences
some allergic reactions, or more seriously, bleeding complications. But
these are life-saving medications. And they have been shown to be very
necessary post-stenting. We do not recommend going off these meds for "natural"
substitutes. We don't know of any natural substitutes with the antiplatelet
properties of Plavix and aspirin combined. We have heard of the book you
mention -- without getting into any details (readers can Google the author
themselves) about the author's medical credentials -- we would point out
that in the past 30 years, mortality from heart attacks has radically decreased
due to the invention of modern therapies and pharmaceuticals.
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, July 5, 2009
I guess I'm luckier than most. Oh, like many
of you, I, too, had medicated stents inserted -- five of them on April
1, 2009. I, too, am on 75 mg of Plavix per day as well as a 325 mg Aspirin
and 100 mg of Lopressor. So far, there have been no adverse reactions,
but... I am very concerned about the use of these medications, especially
knowing that there are terrible side effects associated with their use.
After having read, "Is Your Cardiologist Killing You," and reading surfing
the internet for information regarding more "natural" substitutes, I am
ready to take back my life and my health by weaning myself off these poisons
and beginning to use more natural alternatives.
Elizabeth, Providence, Rhode Island, USA, July 4, 2009
Gary...John from Maryland recently posted a similar
question. Anyone else out there having this reaction??
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, July 4, 2009
I have been taking plavix 75mg for a year now,
over the past few months I have tinnitus which is annoying the hell out
of me. I also noticed that within 60mins of taking plavix my tinnitus
gets worse. Has anyone else had these symptoms?
Gary, Newcastle, United Kingdom, July 4, 2009
My husband had a vascular bypass and two stents
put in almost three months ago. About three weeks after starting plavix,
his eyes swelled shut, his tongue thickened and he had blisters on his
upper thighs. They treated it with Benadryl and prednisone. We thought
everything was better. Then he got an infection and while being treated
with IV antibiotics, he became very confused. They have done a CT scan
to check for a stroke, but the Neurologist asked if he was over his allergy
to Plavix. How do you know? Now I am wondering if it is the plavix. He
gets hungry, but eats very little. He is up in the middle of the night
cleaning. He throws away good stuff, misplaces things, and sometimes can't
remember words. His sense of time is gone. However, he can reason many
things. He made bacon and over-easy eggs successfully, but he prepared
for 4 people instead of the 3 in our family. Can anyone comment on the
possibility of the plavix causing
this.
Darlene, Waseca, Minnesota, USA, July 2, 2009
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Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, July 1, 2009
I am just reading all this now. EASY
from Massachusetts commented that
he/she is looking for me. How can we communicate, Easy?
NanaBCornflake, Houston, Texas, USA, July 1, 2009
My hand has swollen up and I am having terrible
pain in my knees. Could
this be caused by the Plavix?
Hop, Ohio, USA, June 28, 2009
Jean from Canada -- read over some of the posts
in "Not Feeling Well After Stenting". Similar complaints have
been reported -- this usually subsides as the body adjusts, but if there
is anything worrying you, call your cardiologist for no other reason than
to set your mind at ease.
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, June 27, 2009
Stent put in on June 19, 2009 -- on plavix 75mg.
Is it normal to have burning
in chest area, not all the time, comes and goes?
Jean, Canada, June 26, 2009
I had an Endeavor DES placed in LAD 1 year ago after 95+% blockage. Lucky
to be alive, apparently. 62 years old, take 75mg Plavix, 325mg aspirin, beta
blocker and 10mg Lipitor. Have cramps that I never had before in my feet, numbness
in my hands, and some itching from one of these drugs (which one?). Muscle aches
and some skin problems, both from the statin. My side effects are not anywhere
near what some folk describe on this forum, thankfully. Because it is well tolerated,
I expect to be taking Plavix for a long time. Am considering buying it online
from Canada. Not the generic version made in a 3rd world country, but brand name
Plavix. I can buy it for about 1/2 the price of US Plavix. Should I be concerned
about the quality/safety of Canadian Plavix?
Mike, Missouri, USA, June 18, 2009
Has anyone experienced
increased ringing in their ears (tinnitus) as a
result of taking Plavix or any other medication?
John, Maryland, USA, June 12, 2009
John -- NSAIDs, such as ibuprofen (Motrin, Advil)
counteract the antiplatelet (blood thinning) properties of aspirin, although
there is a timing issue and a recent study showed that they could be taken
by the same patient if the aspirin was taken first and the ibuprofen a
few hours later. However, there is also the issue of gastric distress if
all these are taken. Plavix and aspirin are required for a year or more
after drug-eluting stents -- but you should discuss this issue with a cardiologist.
He/she may also want to ease you off the Plavix, instead of stopping cold
turkey (see our article about the possibility of a Plavix
rebound effect)
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, June 12, 2009
Had heart
attacks March of 2005 , VA Doc put in two Taxus DES`S in upper right
coronary
artery 98% blockage , went
back in a month later and placed one Taxus DES in lower left coronary artery.
Been on Plavix and 325 aspirin since .No noticeable side effects. One
VA
Doc in Orlando wanted me to go it cold turkey my other VA Doc in Wisconsin
says stay on it . I have loads of degenerative bone and disc disease
plus an enormous amount of Arthritis pains all over. I would like to treat
the
Arthritis pain with anti-inflammatories but no one will prescribe because
of the Plavix Aspirin. Do I stay in pain or die. Thanks. John 61 years
old.
John. St. Cloud, Florida, USA, June 12, 2009
My internist
prescribed plavix 75 mg (generic which I purchase in Canada) as my carotids
were narrowing
and had two episodes of dizziness
and
balance issues, although the narrowing has stopped with an aggressive program
of crestor (40mg) and zetia (10mg) along with good diet and pro active
fitness program. I seem to tolerate the plavix OK but now have minor digestion
problems and rectal itching.
I am a 69 year old male.
Lee B., Norwalk, Connecticut, USA, June 5, 2009
Burt --
check out our topic on Exercise and
see all the marathoners and bicyclists! Medtronic even holds
a race every year for heart patients who have been fitted with pacemakers, stents, etc.
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, June 5, 2009
I had three
drug coated stents fitted in January 2007. I took Plavix for 12 months
while
stopping the aspirin. Then I started on the aspirin again. I
cycle up a steep hill every day, no chest pain or complications to date. I hope
this lasts, my specialist advised me to continue with plavix and aspirin two
years later. Does anyone think I'm taking a risk?
Burt G., South Africa, June 5, 2009
68 yrs old, had a medicated stent installed
(100% blockage) two ballooned , 70 and 89% blockage, put on Plavix, however
had
an emergency bladder operation seven days later, took a chance , they
said no choice, bleeding inside the bladder (tumor) then the same procedure
on the Bladder aging 14th May,still on the plavix,and since I've had
terrible
shoulder pain..scale of 9 at least,continues daily, weak use of the shoulder
etc, however after a long walk the pain goes away, strange, that evening
during the middle of the night I am awaking again with severe pain,went
to the Emergency room ,spent most of the Night (waste of time) given
a couple tylenol sent home, x-rays shows nothing, had a cortisone shot
etc.....pain
continues,
could this be for the use of Plavix?
Terry, Tacoma, Washington, USA, June 2, 2009
Hi! I am Kathy in Illinois. I went in for a cardiac
cath, they ended up putting in a medicated stent because I had 90-90%
blockage in the main artery in the right side of my heart. I am on plavix.
The doc
told me I would be on it the rest of my life. About 3-4 days after the
I came home, I started itching. Thinking nothing of it, thought it was
dry skin, or mosquitoes, I went to looking and my back looked like I
had hives. I suspect its the plavix, but unsure.
Kathy, Illinois, USA, June 1, 2009
From Chuck to Barbara
L , I had a heart attack March 12 2008 and had two
stents put in on the 13th. was told that my carotid artery left side needed cleaned
out 80% blocked was told to stop taking Plavix for a week before they would do
the operation.
Chuck, Johnson City, Tennessee, USA, May 29, 2009
I just had a coated stent put in 2 weeks ago
and was put on Plavix 75 and zocor 40 and 325 mg aspirin. I had problems
almost from the onset with the zocor, so I stopped it. But, I notice
that after I take the Plavix, I freeze. My body gets very cold all over,
especially
my legs. Does anyone else have this issue from the Plavix. I have no
idea how long I have to be on it, but I hate taking meds and do not want
to
take this the rest of my life. I was told a year and then was told forever.
How can we find out the truth?
Janeen Weiss, Los Angeles, California, USA, May 29, 2009
I'm having terrible side effects from Plavix and
would like to try taking Plavix every other day and continue the aspirin
every day. Cannot not stop Plavix
per my heart doctor's orders. I feel so much better even one day without the
Plavix, but I do want to know if it is safe to take this way? Please advise.
When I first started Plavix, I was hospitalized with severe hives. Tried again,
no hives just over all feeling awful. If anyone has done this safely, please
let me know.
Norma, Pennsylvania, USA, May 28, 2009
In 1991 I got 2 By-pass and in 2007 a stent .
I am taking one Plavix 75 a day and 100 mg. aspirin .How long I have
to continue with Plavix? Thanks
Eng. Salvador Koziolas, Montevideo, URUGUAY, May 28, 2009
Don and Ann -- Plavix has helped many and isn't
"a killer", but it does carry a well-known complication for bleeding
in certain individuals,
as does any blood-thinning medication.
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, May 27, 2009
68yrold male put on Plavix. April 2008. after
3 TIA's.13 mo.later a new Dr.said he should only be on Plavix until he
was stable after TIA's. Has developed bleeding ulcer, just felt so rotten.
stopped Plavix 2 weeks ago and is like a new man! Help get the word out,
Plavix is a killer!!! Dr.s and drug companies are in cohoots! We're not
thru with his Dr.s yet!!!We live in Southern Illinois.
Don & Ann Schnitker, Hoyleton, Illinois, USA, May 26, 2009
I had 3 medicated stents 5/08 now getting ready
to go off. I have had itchy red bumps on my private
area since taking plavix. Could this be the problem?
Guess
I will soon know.
Ted, Tennessee, USA, May 25, 2009
hi all Had second stent (DES) fitted in Jan 2007.
Stayed on normal dose of Plavix until earlier this year when I started
a planned reduction. Now taking half tab per day. At the same time as
all this I also have Atrial Fibrillation (10 years) and so am on the normal
Warfarin. Again as is normal after I had the first stent I was also put
on 75mg Aspirin daily. Being on Warfarin, do we know if it is necessary
to be on Aspirin as well, as I do seem to have lots of digestion issues
which have not yet been addressed. I am seeing a general Surgery doc
shortly
and want to talk to him about this whole issue of tablets.
Tel, United Kingdom, May 18, 2009
I had a heart attack in November 2007 and was
placed on plavix and aspirin. I have had trouble with intermittent chest
pains and tremors in my chest and shoulders. In February 2009 I had to
discontinue the plavix and aspirin for 5 days in order to get a colonoscopy.
During the 5 days , the tremors and chest pain stopped. When I started
back on the plavix, the tremors started up again. My cardiologist insisted
that I stay on the plavix for 2 years after the heart attack.
James C., Tuscumbia, Alabama, USA, May 15, 2009
Hey gang I had a heart attack on of days Friday
the 13th of March. Two stents put in and a lot of side effects from the
medication. I have been on a quest for information ever since. I am currently
reviewing Dr.Ignarro's book on Nitric oxide called NO. It is well worth
the time to read it and will really educate you as to how to get your heart
healthy and functioning at peak performance. I checked the Nobel Peace
prize site and this guy is legit. Get back to me with your information
and critiques of his findings.
Jim McMaster, Salt Lake, Utah, USA, May 5, 2009
Am trying to communicate with NanaBanaCornflake,
Houston, Texas,USA, posting on April 16, 2009. In 12/2009 had two
failed attempts to place a stent in my RCA to remedy the narrowing of
a "Taxus Express2" stent placed 3/2005. Would like to compare notes on
narrowing "Taxus" stents to anticipate potential future symptoms.
Easy, Massachusetts, USA, May 2, 2009
This is for Mike
who lost his taste. I have never been on plavix or heart meds, but
I have been on other type meds...none related to heart or blood pressure.
BUT I lost my sense of smell AND taste. I went to the ENT , had MRI'S
etc...all the tests to see if something could be causing it. After a
year and a half I went back again to the ENT to see if maybe THEN he
could find something to figure out why I lost my smeller and taster.
He found nothing and he told me he had never seen anyone who had lost
their smell and taste for so long ever regain it. I was so bummed. Its
terrible not to smell and taste. No one can really relate to it cause
it seems so rare. Well one day after two years of no smell and taste
i went for a walk and I smelled fresh cut grass. I almost cried... I
was so happy. after that, little by little I began to smell and taste
again. Coffee is about the only thing that still smells a bit weird.
So hang in there...i bet it will eventually come back.. One day you will
smell something and it will be awesome.
Melinda B, Birmingham, Alabama, USA, April 17, 2009
I am now 67 years
YOUNG and have 5 DES stents. 4 Cypher and One Taxus. The TAXUS DES closed
on me last year and I had a Balloon angioplasty inserted. The Cardio Interventionalist
said Plavix would not of helped keep this open nor aspirin as this TAXUS
stent was notorious for doing this. (BUMMER) The other DES stents are wide
open. I have been on Plavix now for 5 years and take TWO 81mg of aspirin
daily. I am ready to wean myself off this stuff. I will continue the baby
aspirins but I believe all the wheezing I do and especially at night may
well be the result of the Plavix. Plus coughing my fool head off. Plavix
people were of no help to me. In fact I did not like her attitude. I needed
to talk to them. I have suffered for 4 years with torn ligaments in both
knees and walk like a 90 year old. No one will do surgery unless I am off
Plavix for 8 days. Interventionalist said NO! Well, I have no life as it
is. I will have to take my chances on re-bound. Now, this is my decision.
No one is telling me to do this BUT ME!.....My Son in Law had one Bare
Metal stent in 2000. He took Plavix for one year and said No more. It has
now been 8 years now and no incidents. he is doing great! My sister had
2 bare metal stents in 2001. She was on Plavix 17 months. She suffered
Steven Johnson syndrome and Low Blood count so her husband weaned her off
that med. This was 7 years ago and she is much better but CBCount is still
a tad low from this. Then me with 5 DES. Not a happy camper. I also feel
Plavix is responsible for my ongoing GERD/REFLUX. I have to take Nexium
daily. I may e-mail the Cardio to see how much he will tell me this time.
Maybe he has some updated info.
NanaBananaCornflake, Houston, Texas, USA, April 16, 2009
Bob -- all studies have shown that with drug-eluting
stents, stopping Plavix/aspirin therapy too soon increases the risk of
stent thrombosis. We strongly recommend discussing this issue with your
cardiologist. Maybe he/she can adjust your meds. After all, the reason
to get stents is to improve the patient's quality of life, not the opposite.
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, April 16, 2009
I had 2 stents five months ago and also have irregular
heart, which occurred after I started taking blood pressure pills. They
have me taking Diovan for blood pressure, 325 mg aspirin, plavix 75 mg,
Simvastatin 20 mg, and warfarin 2.5 mg 3days and 5 mg 4 days weekly. My
INR is between 2-3, but having difficulty taking all these meds. Think
I'm getting more meds than I need, because of reactions such as weight
gain, upset stomach, shortness of breath and lack of energy. Thinking of
dropping most of these meds and just taking 1800 - 2000 mg of fish oil.
Any suggestions?
Bob, Denver, Colorado, USA, April 15, 2009
I'm interested in finding out if EDTA (oral chelation)
will interfere with plavix, Can any one answer that, if so how? I been
on Plavix for a couple years and had a stent put in for pain in my legs.
I also have high blood pressure low dose (zestoretic 10/25) I only take
that as needed. I keep close tabs on my pressure.
Emily, New Caney, Texas, USA, April 13, 2009
Mary -- the current guidelines recommend Plavix
and aspirin (a.k.a. DAPT or Dual AntiPlatelet Therapy) for 6-12 months
or longer, post DES, assuming there are no complications. Bleeding is definitely
one of these complications, and something for all to be aware of. We would
only stress to you and our readers that the issue of continuing with Plavix
and aspirin is a very important one, because stopping Plavix too soon increases
the risk of stent thrombosis. We strongly recommend discussing this issue
with your cardiologist.
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, April 9, 2009
Hello,I had two D.E.S. put in one year ago. Like
most people, I am on 75 of Plavix and 81mg. of asprin. As I write my friend
is in the i.c.u. fighting for his life from a g.i. bleed caused by the
combo of Plavix and aspirin. I have read everything that comes out on Plavix
and I have decided that I am taking myself off it but I will do a taper
over several months. I have worked cardiac med surg. for a number of years
so I am well aware of all sides to the questions and fears. I am not telling
anyone to taper nor am I saying that anyone should stop period. I am making
my own choice for my own body. Besides the two stents I am otherwise extremely
healthy and walk daily as well as following a good diet. Out of four siblings,
the doctors were shocked at the blockages because of my overall health.
Mary, Virginia, USA, April 6, 2009
My 83 yr old father recently had a small MI, with
stent placement in heart then several weeks later leg -peripheral stent.
developed VT after that,which resolved on lidocaine gtt and mexilitine
po. was started on plavix and asa after stents. went into afib, started
back on coumadin. cardioverted out of afib, but next day experienced increased
shortness of breath. Now on ventilator in ICU. bronchoscopy showed lung
hemorrhage from plavix,coumadin and asa. Hopefully he will wean off respirator
soon. Drugs can be good, but not in his case. They said it is a rare occurrence.
His INR was in therapeutic range. wonder why they don't check bleeding
times, or platelet counts in people on combo rx. Just wonder how may people
hemorrhage in the lungs from plavix, and the long term outcomes. No real
antidote for treatment in critical situations.
Sandra, Massachusetts, USA, April 5, 2009
Lesly and others -- you need to find out what
type of stent was placed. Guidelines are that DAPT (dual antiplatelet therapy,
which is Plavix and aspirin) should be continued for 4-6 weeks for bare
metal stents and 6-12 months or longer for drug-eluting stents. Premature
cessation of antiplatelet therapy is associated with increased risk of
thrombosis (clotting). There are possible alternatives to Plavix, such
as Ticlid. But every patient's situation is different, which is why nothing
you read on this or any other site should be a substitute for a medical
professional's opinion. Talk to your cardiologist -- if you are not getting
the right information, go for a second opinion.
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, April 5, 2009
I have a unique case. I had a stent placed in
my celiac artery (no heart disease) due to compression of the artery by
a ligament. The ligament was cut, the stent placed and I was put on plavix
for 90 days. Cut to 2 years later, the artery restenosed (75%) I had an
angiogram and a second stent placed. I am trying to find out if it was
bare metal or des. All my research shows that plavix does not prevent restenosis,
just clotting. The artery involved in my case does not go to my heart,
but to my intestines. This time around I am having terrible side effects
from the plavix-severe stomach and back pain. I am planning on stopping
the plavix (my dr. is an idiot as far as I am concerned and insists I stay
on the plavix, possibly indefinitely although I can not get any real reason
from her) but I can't seem to get any information on my particular type
of situation. Anyone out there have a similar situation or insight? Thanks.
Lesly M., California, USA, April 5, 2009
I had a medicated stent 10/08 with 60% blockage,
01/09 after returning to cardiologist several time another angiogram performs
there it was determined I was 80 to 95% blocked,I had quadruple bypass
01/29/09 prior to that I was on Plavix for 3 months, I have diabetes which
was under control with an A1C of 6.4 and now my blood glucose levels uncontrollable
A1C is 8.0, GP has put me on insulin and the insulin is not working. Could
the plavix cause the insulin to not get into the cell. I will be going
to an Endocrinologist very soon. Any responses will be greatly appreciated.
Kelly M, Naytahwaush, Minnesota, USA, April 5, 2009
I am getting ready to stop Plavix after having
a bare metal stent placed a little over a year ago. In addition to tapering
off of Plavix I have been tested to be sure my aspirin dose is actually
working. I heard a cardiologist recently say that it is important to have
your aspirin response tested before you stop Plavix. One of the reasons
people have heart attacks, strokes or die is because aspirin doesn't work
in them or they are taking the wrong dose. It is probably between 10% to
20% of the population. My doctor used a test called AspirinWorks to test
me.
Gordon E, Wichita, Kansas, USA, March 26, 2009
I had a stent put in 2 years ago. How long can
I go without taking plavix?
Fred Rupeter, Biloxi, Mississippi, USA, March 24, 2009
Is it safe to go off Plavix after having a drug
coated stent 18 months ago?
Peggy, Phoenix, Arizona, USA, March 13, 2009
I am a 49 year old female who had two medicated
stents placed in my RCA. I was put on plavix 325mg aspirin lowered to 81
because of severe bruising. I also was on ranexa which caused bloody urine
and am on metoprolol 12.5 twice a day. I have had steady declining mental
functions, feeling like i am in a fog, inability to concentrate, identify
items at times and memory loss.The Doctor tried an antidepressant Lexapro
and I could barely move and yet it felt like i was racing. I had told him
I wasn't capable of being depressed because I could not hold a thought
long enough to even think I was depressed. Now after reading this and http://www.askapatient.com/viewrating.asp?drug=20839&name=PLAVIX starting
to think I had some kind of brain tumor I can attribute my mental problems
to plavix I am sure of it. Why don't the doctors listen to us? This decreased
thought function and severe lack of energy leaves me in a suspended state
each and every day. I am alone and I barely can function. There has to
be another way. Don't they know we know ourselves more than anyone?
Sandi P., Connecticut, USA, March 12, 2009
Apr. 07 4 stents implanted, 3 DES. On Plavix for
18 months, then decided to take same every second day 4 months ago. Today's
Dr. Visit said, "stop Plavix". I will so, and do hope that someone, eventually
will help all others in a dilemma re: Plavix!!
Fred Bircham, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada, March 12, 2009
Mike--Stent-Dec.5-08-Circumflex-90%-I
am 44yrs.I have had trouble with dizziness and *LOSS OF TASTE.* Could be
worse,but it really sucks to lose your taste. Anyone else had this problem.
I guess I have to take this med. for at least a year or I could keel over
and die..From what I have been reading it is scary to try to get off of
this med.WOW! miracle drug ha!Guess I'm lucky?Not so sure..If anyone knows
how to regain taste please send an e-mail. I really do feel for everybody
with these awful side effects.
Mike, Oklahoma, USA, March 12, 2009
My husband just had 2 DES placed in RCA 2 weeks
ago Put him on Plavix, baby aspirin, etc. all the usual drugs. After 1
week developed rash/hives type symptoms, Dr said he's probably reacting
to Plavix so he had him start taking Ticlid plus Plavix for 5 days and
then stop taking Plavix all together. Put him on a steroid regimen too.
After 2 days rash was all but gone but now developed large bumps/itching
again. Can you develop allergies to foods you were never allergic to before
taking these drugs?? Seems it happens when he eats bananas. Any ideas???
Jacki, Derby, Kansas, USA, March 11, 2009
I had stenting done about 2 years back for one
artery... and was on Plavix for around 4 months. Can I take any medicine
apart from Aspirin
Arun, Pune, India, March 10, 2009
Update to my
Feb 2007 report on my 2 des (stents) fitted to r/h coronary artery
(100 % blocked) , I was placed on plavix, 40mg simvastatin, 75mg aspirin,
- 3 months later the statin was stopped, 8 months later the plavix was
stopped, - I currently take - 75 mg aspirin and 10 mg statin, that is
all - no problems other than itchy skin on legs - cholesterol is 4.2
- sugars are ok.
Dave W., England, March 6, 2009
I have been on plavix for 6 years. been off 10
days for surgery . Last week I had 2 more stents and was put on plavix
with aspirin I have a bad allergic reaction to aspirin and have been warned
by my old deceased physician. Now I found that they gave me aspirin the
day of the stents and when I got home I now have some bad reactions I stopped
the aspirin. Has anyone had a problem with plavix and aspirin.
Sue R., Missouri, USA, March 4, 2009
This is Donna who
husband has 16 stents, no he has never taken Avandia, just Plavix. He takes
three different cholesterol pills, plus others. He takes 1 isosorbide dinitrate
three times a day. Which is a form of nitroglycerin, he use to wear a large
patch everyday, but they started giving him this kind. He don't get the
headaches that often now.
Donna Sherron, Smithfield, North Carolina, USA, March 4, 2009
I am a 50 year old female who had a heart attack
at home last Thurs. Feb 26 on Fri 27. I had an angioplasty for a clot on
a blocked artery and a stent inserted. Home on Sunday taking aspirin, 75mg
Plavix, 20mg Lipitor and 1 Blood Pressure tablet. I am so nervous and have
a dullness still in my left arm. Can anybody reassure me I am terrified.
Bernie, Ireland, March 4, 2009
I am 37 years old and have had three blood clots
so far -- 2 while on Coumadin. My doctor then prescribed 75 mg of Plavix
and 81 mg of aspirin daily. I have been taking the Plavix-aspirin regimen
for about 1 year. My doctor told me that he believes I need to be on this
regimen for life. I'm super concerned now that I have read about long-term
effects, re-bound effects and other complications. Can anyone point me
to literature that might help me make an informed decision about perhaps
taking half the dose.
Michael , Costa Rica, March 4, 2009
My husband had both
metal and coated which was they way they did all of his stents. Dr's told
us he would be on Plavix rest of his life. He needs a knee operation, but
Dr's won't do it because he can not come off the Plavix.
Donna Sherron, Smithfield, North Carolina, USA, March 3, 2009
I'm trying to Reach Donna,
the woman who's Husband has had 16 stents! Does your husband take Avandia!?
I've had 4 stents, I blocked up every 6 months like clock work! I did everything
I was supposed to do during this time too! Please, if he's taking Avandia,
it's the Avandia. I stopped taking it one month after my last stent surgery,
and it's been 1.8 years without anymore blockage! Anyone that started taking
Avandia, and was healthy before, then started having heart attacks or blockage
3 to 9 months later, please stop the Avandia, and go to glucotrol! Please
ask your MD don't take my word for this! My MD thank god had suspected
that it was the Avandia! This saved my life!
Waylen, Medford, Oregon, USA, March 3, 2009
Withdrawing from Plavix......possible side effects
Being part way through my withdrawal programme I have noticed a strange
symptom, which I am not sure could be attributed to slowly coming off plavix.
I find that after a walk, in normal conditions, my feet both start to `hurt`,
and feel as if they are cold, but on stopping and unshoeing, my toes particularly,
feel uncomfortable as if they are cold, but are actually warm, but tender.
This stays for about 2 hours. Anyone else had anything similar after stopping
Plavix??
Tel, United Kingdom, March 1, 2009
After stopping Plavix, my four coronaries became
severely blocked, just 60 days after. Two were 100% and the other two 95%.
I had to have open heart surgery with four bypasses. After 3 months, I
suspected that it was Plavix that caused it. Now, after a year, I took
a CTA Cardiac scan to have a look at my heart. Guess what? My native arteries
are fully open and the bypasses dead. I was told that I was probably misdiagnosed;
that the blockages could probably have been flushed out. I am still after
BMS for not warning physicians or patients about being careful stopping
Plavix, but slowly weaning off. How many other are out there with the same
dilemma as me?
Miya, Los Angeles, California, USA, February 27, 2009
Chris H. -- read the blog entry titled, "Plavix,
Prilosec, Prevacid, Protonix -- Do I Hear a Nexium?" about the
current statements on PPIs and Plavix. Also the "Plavix
Safety Update" which links to the latest document from the professional
societies. As for Ticlid (ticlopidine) it fell out of use when Plavix
came around, because it tended to have more adverse reactions. However,
several cardiologists we have spoken to have switched patients to Ticlid
when they were having difficulty with Plavix -- and they did fine. In
Japan, Plavix is not reimbursed, so everyone there is on Ticlid.
These are definitely issues to discuss specifically with your cardiologist
and in no should you take anything you read here (or elsewhere on the
Net) as a substitute for his/her advice.
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, February 28, 2009
I'm a 49 year old male that had an MI Jan 2009,
had a single DES placed in my LAD (don't recall being given an option)
and have been on 75 mg Plavix + 81 mg Aspirin for only 6 miserable weeks
now. Actually, at first I was also taking lopressor & zocor, but Cardiologist
stopped them (separately, a couple weeks apart) because I was complaining
about how miserable I am. I was very active before the MI, but since, I
am always tired & weak, always sick to my stomach, many times I have chest
pressure and back pain & burning in my stomach. When I tried to get my
Prilosec refilled, my regular MD would not refill it based on a Nov '08
report about PPIs interfering with Plavix. My Cardiologist had actually
given me a bunch of Nexium samples on my first visit after the Stent...guess
he doesn't believe that report or care. Anyway, for about two weeks now
I'm only on 81 mg Aspirin and 75 mg Plavix and I still feel really lifeless
and sick to my stomach all the time. I've never had an issue with aspirin,
so I'm about 100% sure the Plavix is to blame for my misery. I'm supposed
to take Plavix for no less than 1 year...I'm going to die from malnourishment,
lack of physical activity and depression first. My bad days far outnumber
the good & I haven't had a single day that was all good. Cardio says he'll
only take me off Plavix IF the GI Doc tells him to. I'm seeing the GI Doc
this week, but don't expect him to make that call, PLUS, after everything
I've read, I'm scared to death to stop Plavix unless I'm given an alternative
drug, but Ticlid seems like the only alternative and sounds even worse.
I don't want to die, but can't keep living like this.
Chris H., Palm Bay, Florida, USA, February 22, 2009
I dissected the LAD 2 years ago and had 2 bare
metal stents emplaced. I was put on coreg cr and aspirin. In Dec 08, the
Dr told me one of the stents had scar tissue and emplaced a DES/Balloon
and put me on plavix, aspirin, coreg, nexium. I now have extreme dry mouth.
I can barely eat anything as it feels like it's stuck. The Dr thinks it's
from anxiety and prescribed xanax .25, which makes me calmer, but doesn't
take away the dry mouth. Can it be the drugs and if so, what can be done?
I'm not doing well. Need help asap.
LF, New York, USA, February 19, 2009
Ian -- check out our reply on Feb 10th re: Plavix
rebound effect. Hope others will respond, but if you are having bleeding
symptom, definitely check with your cardiologist. You should check with
him/her anyway re: stopping Plavix -- stopping any med, but especially
Plavix, is not something patients should do on their own -- even though
the Endeavor has a good safety record re: late stent thrombosis.
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, February 19, 2009
Hello, has anybody had any experience of kidney
pain, head aches, nausea, loss of concentration and extreme lethargy whilst
taking Plavix ? I had three drug eluding [eluting] stents fitted four years
ago and two Endeavour stents in March of 08. Medication is 75 mg Plavix,
75 mg aspirin, 2.5 mg Bisoporol, 10 mg statin. I have had muscle cramps
from the statins, hence the low dose and also cannot tolerate ace inhibitors.
Other side effects that appear to be the result of Plavix are nose bleeds,
bruising and blood in semen. Was about to stop the Plavix until reading
about the rebound effect, may now cut the dose in half. What is the forums
opinion on this ? Thanks for your feed back.
Ian, United Kingdom, February 19, 2009
Barbara -- check out the related topic on "Plavix
and Surgery" as well. You'll see that recommendations from all
major medical societies is to discuss issue this with your cardiologist
and possibly to have your cardiologist and surgeon talk to each other
as well.
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, February 18, 2009
Has anyone stopped taking their Plavix and aspirin
for a short period of time? I need to have some surgery and want to know
how dangerous it would be to be off these medications for about 10 days.
I have 3 stents and have been on Plavix and aspirin for 2 years.
Barbara L., Los Angeles, California, USA, February 18, 2009
To Byron hi, I had last DES fitted in Dec 2006.
Have taken Plavix and 75mg Enteric coated aspirin since. Cardio has suggested
I stop Plavix, so I have started a slow withdrawal regime of my own. First
month 1 tab one day, half the next.(done) Second month I have gone to I
tab one day then 2 days on half. (doing) Next month I will go to half tab
per day. Fourth month I will go to half tab every other day. Fifth month
I trust i will have courage to stop altogether. As everyone says this is
not coming from the Cardio, but she knows I belong to this forum and am
savvy about the possibles problem and is happy that I take this route,
but it was not her idea.
tel, United Kingdom, February 18, 2009
Byron N. -- check out the related topic on "Financial
Assistance for Plavix" as well.
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, February 17, 2009
Has anyone stopped Plavix and taken just aspirin?
If Plavix was stopped, what dosage of aspirin was used? I take both Plavix
and 325 Aspirin, and have had 9 stents placed 3 years ago, and find Plavix
much too expensive.
Byron N., San Diego, California, USA, February 17, 2009
Recently had surgery, carotid artery left side.
I was healthy 67 yr old. I was given Plavix (75mg) and (80mg) baby aspirin,
1 wk after being at home I broke out in hives lip and tongue swollen, and
at one point throat was closing. Since, I have been to an allergy doctor,
on antihistamines and prednisone. Have had break out since, can't eat tomato
products, citrus, or nuts. could before, help what’s wrong?
Julie, Mississippi, USA, February 16, 2009
Donna -- when did your husband get his latest
stents and what type were they -- current guidelines recommend 6-12 months
for Plavix after drug-eluting stents, significantly less for bare metal.
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, February 16, 2009
Hello, my husband
has 16 stents in his heart now, on Dec. 4 1997 he had 8 in his RCA, he
also now has 1 in the Left (LAD), 1 in Circumflex (Circ) and then had 2
placed on the end of the 8 and then 4 place inside the eight. Dr's said
he was not a candidate for open heart. He has been on Plavix from the beginning
and 325 mg aspirin along with other meds. He was a working roofer and now
has torn his meniscus cup and Drs will not operate because he can not come
off of Plavix. Since this now, can he get disability on social security?
We are lost as of what to do. Do you know anyone else that has had this
many stents?
Donna S., North Carolina, USA, February 15, 2009
Wayne and Christine --
current antiplatelet protocols for stent patients are 75mg of Plavix plus
aspirin (sometimes baby aspirin of 81mg or standard 325mg -- both are considered "low-dose).
As for the Plavix "rebound" effect, it is only observational
and has not been "proven" and there is no scientific evidence
that tapering off would prevent it. (We don't know of any aspirin rebound
effect.) That being said, the observational data of the Plavix reb ound
effect definitely are cause for concern -- the reason there is no clinical
proof is that the effect was first
described only a year ago, and it takes time (and money) to run these
trials to get "proof". Another issue is the whole area of resistance
in some patients to Plavix and/or aspirin. There are recent studies involving
genetic markers for this resistance and also to see if increasing dosage
can overcome resistance. There are no real clear answers yet, and the future
of medicine is that these therapies are going to be need to be tailored
more to the individual patient. We don't/can't medical advice and for these
answers you need to consult your cardiologist. But one question we would
ask would be, if you are not having adverse effects from the current dosages
(bleeding, etc.) and you have been doing well, what would be the reason
to change the dose?
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, February 10, 2009
I have a question regarding the dose of aspirin.
In March of 2007, almost 2 yrs ago, my 85 year old dad had a drug coated
Taxus Express2 stent placed in his LAD to treat an 80% blockage. This was
not due to an MI. He had a cath performed to investigate chest pain that
he was having and when they found the blockage, in went the stent. Prior
to the procedure he was on a number of drugs to control BP, cholesterol,
and a baby aspirin. In the hospital they upped his aspirin to 325 and of
course added Plavix 75. Now almost 2 years later when accompanying him
to his PCP for a checkup, the doctor said that he could really be taking
just a baby aspirin. In my paranoia from all I am reading about late stent
thrombosis and going off the drugs for any reason as well as the rebound
effect of going off Plavix, I made my dad wait to see his local cardiologist
to ask the aspirin question. That Dr also said that he could be on a baby
aspirin. I am wondering is there a danger of reducing aspirin if you have
been taking a higher dose for years??? Is there also a "rebound effect" with
aspirin? And what really are the guidelines as to the aspirin dosage??
I would love to reduce his risk of bleeding, but I am afraid to increase
his risk of a clot!! Any information would be very appreciated.
Christine, Pittsfield, Massachusetts, USA, February 10, 2009
The reason I am taking plavix is because my Doctor
put me on it during a procedure to check the blood flow in my leg which
has 3 stints [stents] in it, it was to prevent a clot, then a month later
I had a mild TIA, then an MRI and I'm scheduled to have another MRI in
April to compare with the first, I also am wondering if the procedure mentioned
above had anything to do with my TIA?
Wayne, Cedartown, Georgia, USA, February 10, 2009
Wayne -- why were you prescribed Plavix? Did you
get a stent? Both aspirin and Plavix (clopidogrel) are antiplatelet meds,
but they act differently to keep blood from clotting so, for stent patients,
they are alway prescribed together.
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, February 9, 2009
I am simply wanting to know if there is a problem
with taking Plavix and a 325 aspirin at the same time, and is there any
extra benefit to taking Plavix over Aspirin ? I have been taking 325 Aspirin
for 12 years, no problem, and now am taking Plavix 75mg. I had a mild TIA
a month ago?
Wayne Kines, Cedartown, Georgia, USA, February 8, 2009
NEXIUM, ETC. ALERT
(repeated from January 28) -- a number of postings mention being
on Nexium or a similar drug (called a Proton Pump Inhibitor, or PPI)
to stop stomach upsets, etc. If you are taking this type of drug, check
out the Editor's blog discussions of this past week about new findings
and the FDA alert (here and here)
about Plavix and PPI drugs, such as Nexium, Prevacid, etc.
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, February 7, 2009
m.b. My mother had a stint (her 4th) in Dec. In
Jan. she had two strokes (TIA's) with her right side affected. Yesterday
her right leg was severely swollen and had turned a deep purple with blisters.
She is also on Nexium as well as Plavix. We took her to the dr. and are
waiting for the blood tests. Is this a side effect?
HMB, Tennessee, USA, February 6, 2009
HI all, I have now been on Plavix coming up for
3 years. Is there yet any advice on stopping or reducing the dose. Luckily
in the UK my Plavix is free but that is no reason to keep taking it if
I don't need to. I do know that I am increasingly experiencing strange
side effects, dry lips, dry skin, a strange allergy to aftershave (it causes
a hives effect). Any ideas anyone?...My Doctor ..GP..says it is just a
side effect of age!!! I am also taking Bisoprolol, baby aspirin, Simvastatin,
hytrin and valsartan. Yep, I rattle when I walk!!
John, Daventry, United Kingdom, February 6, 2009
Hello. I had two stents put in August 08 and
was put on plavix (75mg) and aspirin (325) daily. Within the first few
weeks I started to have problems with confusion and short term memory loss.
The memory loss for example forgetting peoples names, loss of thought during
a conversation, etc. Anyone having any memory problems or is this my imagination.
Dr. just ignores problem.
Mark, Texas, USA, February 3, 2009
I had a kidney transplant 13 years ago and had
DES a month ago. Now taking the following meds: prednisone, plavix, aspirin,
nexium, neoral, lopressor and lipitor. Are these combinations good for
my health. Lately also I am experiencing mild angina, is this normal for
a new DES patient?
JY, Saudi Arabia, February 1, 2009
I had a stroke four years ago, and consequently
started taking Plavix. I never had a good day on them, not one...four years
later and I have decided/ given the go ahead to take Aspirin instead, been
on this for a week now but been feeling very sick at night, keeps me awake,
but I am fine during the day now which is a miracle!! Is this a normal
reaction to taking a new drug after being on another one for so long? Just
a little worried, any insight would be appreciated.
Angela, France, January 29, 2009
ALERT!!! --
ALL patients on Plavix -- check out the Editor's blog discussions (here and here)
about Plavix and PPI drugs, such as Nexium, Prevacid, etc.
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, January 28, 2009
A.D. -- read through the Forum
Topic on Plavix and Surgery -- the best advice is that your two physicians
should be talking to each other about the relative risks and making a
joint decision. That's not our opinion. That's the recommendation from
the major medical professional organizations (ACC, College of Surgeons,
etc.) --
Mar from Kentucky -- we don't know of any research showing
these drugs raise cholesterol. Imdur can cause some cholesterol tests to
read falsely low.
Sue from Wisconsin -- is your husband on any other heart
meds? Beta blockers are known to cause cold extremeties -- it's not a listed
side-effect of clopidogrel, but we have heard from patients who have similar
complaints. If this is of concern, call your cardiologist -- maybe check
blood count, if there's a concern.
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, January 27, 2009
Possible TIA. Over the weekend I `blacked out`
for a split second, and was left feeling dizzy and disorientated. History
of 2 stents (1 DES in Jan 2007) had been on Plavix ever since. Cardio finally
convinced me to wean myself off it which I had started to do about 2 weeks
ago, going down to half a pill/whole pill every other day. Not yest sure
if this had anything to do with what my Doc thinks could have been a TIA,
but hopefully CT scan due tomorrow will find out what happened.
Tel, United Kingdom, January 26, 2009
I had a Drug eluding [eluting] stent placed into
my coronary artery in June of 2008. I am in need of a Hip replacement.
My cardiologist says that it is ok to go off Plavix six months after stent
insertion . My orthopedic surgeon says I should wait another six months.
Who should i listen to.
A.D., California, USA, January 25, 2009
Can Plavix or Imdur cause the rise in cholesterol?
Mar, Kentucky, USA, January 24, 2009
My husband had a stent placed about a month ago
and is now taking Plavix. He notices that his hands and feet get cold very
easily. Is this a side effect of Plavix?
Sue M., Wisconsin, USA, January 23, 2009
Sally L. (and Tim from California)-- all guidelines strongly state
that Plavix (clopidogrel) and aspirin are to be taken for at least a month
(for bare metal stents) and 6 months to a year or longer (for drug-eluting
stents). The proper length of time is one of the major discussions among
the interventional cardiology profession.
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, January 23, 2009
My husband had a heart attack on Jan. 2nd, 2009.
He had three stents placed and was out of the hospital three days later.
Two days after discharge he returned to the hospital with a major heart
attack. He was on life support for three days (ventilator and balloon pump).
Now he is diagnosed with congestive heart failure. The first time he was
discharged the doctors/pharmacy forgot to give us the Plavix. Is this negligence?
What are current treatments for congestive heart failure besides a low
salt diet with lasix?
Sally L., Washington, USA, January 22, 2009
Hello, I had a stent placed in LDA [LAD] in 1995,
Norvasc, lipitor, 325 aspirin a day. Thirteen years later Jan 13, another
stent in LDA a little south of the first. Dr. added Plavix for one year
and continue all meds. I know it's only been a few days, everything seems
ok. Plavix being new to me should I have anything to worry about? I did
fine for thirteen years with out it. Also, when tapering off of any med.
I would think it be best to do it slowly, couldn't hurt, but cold turkey
might.
Tim, California, USA, January 17, 2009
Hi, I really need help. My father just had one
stent placed in Oct 2008. He had a 85% blockage. He did well and was discharged
from the hospital. He was put on the normal plavix and 81mg aspirin. He
since has not gotten any better, he has had chest pain on and off, lost
his appetite and has chest pain when he eats. He went to cardiologist twice
since and they said his cardiac enzymes, EKG are all good. All they did
was discontinue his zocor- saying that may have some side effects. He is
also very frustrated cause his arm/ hands/ feet are going numb and having
odd temp problems. He also can't tolerate any nicotine at all (which I
know he was told to stop chewing tobacco but he tried to put a tiny bit
and he had to call 911 cause he was having a stroke! Any ideas??? I'm afraid
he is having some rare problem that they are overlooking and something
is going to happen to him.
Barbie, Somerset, Pennsylvania, USA, January 16, 2009
Kerstin -- when did you stop taking Plavix and
when did this incident happen? The "rebound" effect, if it is
in fact real, has been observed within the first 90 days after cessation
of Plavix, and mostly in the first 30.
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, January 14, 2009
I had a bare metal stent placed in me in August
07. One blockage, otherwise very healthy. Doctor told me to take Plavix
for 30 days. I never used medicine before, as I had never been sick. I
felt fine after the stent and returned to swimming (54 yrs old). On November
28, I felt something painful in my heart. My husband took me to ER. They
could not detect anything so I was released in the morning. Pain consisted
and after a few tests, the doctor decided to re-stent me. That's when they
saw that all four coronary arteries were totally blocked (2 were 100% blocked,
the others were 95% blocked). Rushed into open heart surgery with 4 bypasses.
No doctor could understand this. They said it was a miracle that I have
lived through this, without having a fatal heart attack. It took me 6 months
of research to find out about the "rebound effect" after stopping taking
Plavix. I have since then "educated" many doctors who didn't had a clue
about this, including my own cardiologist . My life is forever changed.
Had there been a warning on the prescription, I would surely not have stopped
taking Plavix, but slowly tapering off.
Kerstin M., Cypress, California, USA, January 13, 2009
Since 1996 I have been taking a 325 mg aspirin
per day and 1 folic acid per day, all because of poor circulation in my
legs. 1 year ago I had three stints [stents] put in my left leg and 2 months
ago My Doctor did a dye test and opened up one of those stints while he
was doing the test, he put me on plavix 5 days before this and am currently
still doing the 75 plavix and the 325 aspirin, A few days ago my right
arm went totally limp ? like a wet noodle, what should I do?
Wayne K., Georgia, January 12, 2009
Clay -
I am interested in any responses you may get. My mother has been on Plavix
for about a month and just lost her sense of taste. She is very depressed
and is very thin as it is.
Chris, Birmingham, Alabama, USA, January 11, 2009
David -- check out our related topic, "Financial
Assistance for Plavix and Other Prescription Drugs" -- and if
you have gotten a drug-eluting stent in the past year, don't stop taking
it -- in fact don't change any meds without consulting your cardiologist
first.
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, January 9, 2009
I CAN NO LONGER AFFORD PLAVIX AT $145.00 A BOTTLE
IS THERE A PROBLEM WITH STOPPING TAKING IT OR A CHEAPER ALTERNATIVE
DAVID, Minnesota, USA, January 7, 2009
Jona -- You asked a complicated question -- here's
a complicated answer: (1) the tests for Plavix resistance are not absolutely
accurate; (2) two years out is farther than the guidelines, but your cardiologist
has a lot of company, since no one really know how long to take Plavix;
(3) there is some observational data suggesting the possibility of a
Plavix rebound effect in the 90 days after stopping -- tapering off
has been suggested, but there is no data to show it works; (4) there is
a new
technology called OCT which DOES show if stent struts are covered or
not -- it's not yet approved by FDA for clinical use in the U.S. -- and
it is invasive (done in a cath lab, during an angiogram).
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, January 7, 2009
Pardon another complicated "do I stop Plavix" story.
I'm 50yo physician. Had 1 Taxus stent placed 2yrs ago for isolated lesion
(prox LAD) complicated by immediate (in recovery room) stent thrombosis.
Taken right back to cath lab for clot removal & restenting. Now doing very
well heart-wise on aspirin & Plavix (exercise nut-no angina) but have had
2 serious nose bleeds over past 2 yrs each requiring hospitalization & embolization
(like cath for placing material to clog the bleeding nose vessels- but
with risk of stroke). Odd thing is the vascular lab ran testing which found
I am partially RESISTANT to Plavix. ENT wants Plavix stopped, but cardiologist
reluctant due to earlier stent thrombosis. Am staying on Plavix for now,
but what to do longer term?? How close are we to a scan which might show
if my stent is re-epithelialized (fully healed to platelets would not stick
to it).
Jona, Indianapolis, Indiana, USA, January 4, 2009
P. -- we are so sorry for your loss. It's impossible
to say from a distance -- stroke can be caused by many things. Plavix and
aspirin are blood-thinners and have a side-effect of increased bleeding.
But Plavix is also known to prevent certain type of stroke.
Forum Editor, Angioplasty.Org, January 4, 2009
My husband had two stents (one medicated and one
not) plus a defibrillator put in in 11/08 due to two blockages and a heart
attack in lower left part of heart. His heart beat was irregular thus the
defibrillator. Put on lots of medication including 75mg plavix and 325mg
ecotrin. Everything was fine until last week he suffered hemorrhage stroke
and died. Was the combo too much? Should he have been on lower dose of
ecotrin or taken off plavix? He was given good reports and he felt good.
He was only 63 yrs. old.
P., Florida, USA, January 3, 2009
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